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Post by blackfoxx on Mar 1, 2016 7:53:14 GMT
What is the level of technology, what is the spread of technology. I heard it discussed in the youtube videos that This game is meant to be focused on a single age and that the overall feel is tribal-punk. These notes aside how does The Art effect the culture.
For instance where is the Tay Descriptive book. Is it held by Atrus in Tomahna(how do people feel about that?[mixed I would assume]) or is it in a mini Scientific Research / Defense age. Maybe instead it's on a small fortress Island where It is reviewed, copied and modified by a small cult of scholars and politicians. people might notice these changes if the cult moves too quickly or drastically. could lead to agitation of mount Ghen.
Are mini ages used as an alternate internet/ global market/ covert travel/ Political meeting place. When we refer to Myst's hub world style it's generally a negative thing because the ages aren't particularly relevant to Myst Island. I think it's possible that Tay could be a minor hub world where all of the tangent mini ages are used as infrastructure. For instance all of the major merchants for each tribe might carry a linking book to a trade hub. They hop across the link and instead of days or weeks travel to the next town it's actually only a few paces down a library corridor.
These network ages might even be inherited. where the actual Art of writing new worlds has been lost or is commission by people outside of Tay, like Atrus. Scribes can copy linking books to preexisting ages but new ages are extremely rare. This would make Descriptive books extremely precious and Linking books very valuable. It also means that scribes trying to study and write new ages in secret will almost always write unstable ages. perhaps a rebel group has captured a scribe to write them a new age and they just have to deal with the problems that entails.
Part 2 Other Tech Throughout the myst series we've seen steam power, sophisticated electronics, and even holograms. As noted above this is a Tribal-punk world not a steampunk one. That doesn't mean there isn't room for relic machines of the D'ni. These machines could do operations that are otherwise infeasible. Clearly the culture of the Moiety is something of an Amish nature, with out most of the christian associated ideals. So machines if they do exist a rare, and in most cases hidden.
Other possibilities for higher technology is something that is completely forgotten that happens to operate some terraforming operation. Say for instance one of Catherine's final edits to the age were giant vents that clean the air surrounding the Mt' Ghen region. inside the region is horrible but outside the ring life is noticeably better for no observable reason. All the vents lead to a central machine room. maybe they start to fail and it pollutes the surrounding areas. This puts up all sorts of superstition and mislead geoscience about Mt.Ghen.
As a curious side note, does this age have the power of flight through something probably low tech like blimps or gliders?
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Post by Yali on Mar 1, 2016 23:21:47 GMT
Not sure if you read the Journals available in the Journal section, but here's Watson's Journal (We might use a different character in the end like my British Watson lookalike, Professor Arthur Marius) and Adann's Journal . Journal SectionThere are a lot of machines but they are mostly used by the wealthy clans such as Rem (Ink Beetle) and Wahrk. The capital city of Ashtasa in the south has large bridges connecting the islands together with trams built on them. In a sense, Tay is a mix of D'ni aesthetics and technology with African/Polynesian/Native American tribal culture and technology. Clan Hiva are more low-tech living in thatched huts or in adobe huts like what is planned for the town of Tikome. The Atami on the other hand are almost completely *wild* culturally. They build mud huts into the base of jungle trees and use the raw materials of the jungles to live, using wood and flint, stone and imported Moiety iron daggers in their hunting technology. They don't partake in the Clan Council despite being one of the largest clans. In terms of books, over the last 200 years books have been gradually imported into the Age and Tay has become its own little Art-wielding civilization in itself, beginning to mirror D'ni more and more as time goes on. It was in the last 50 years that the Moiety Writers Guild was founded based off the D'ni one. This came from an attempt to distance the culture from the tribal warring customs of Clan society and embrace the notion that Tay was gifted with the Art (unfortunately through Gehn) and that Tay is a sister Age to Releeshahn while being its polar opposite. While Releeshahn is the "perfect Age", Tay is imperfect, mucky, shrouded in wild untamed life and ash winds along with unruly weather. This is something that the Moiety have come to embrace as a sign of their strength. One of the concepts I entertained was that the Art would be misused on Tay. The Writers' Guild was meant to be educated by the D'ni, but due to limited resources, the D'ni have not had the ability to educate another whole Age, resulting in a kind of ramshackled approach to Age writing and teaching. Also Moiety Writers focus on entirely different subject matter than the D'ni. Most of the Ages have a focus on untamed life and danger, such as lava flood plain Ages or hunting Ages with giant creatures such as insects. Also a lot of these Ages have instabilities due to the poor education of the Moiety Writer's Guild. Moiety society is much more brutal than D'ni and overt displays of violence are encouraged as opposed to D'ni's more subdued approach. One big factor is the trading of illicit Ages often written by amateurs as a way to obtain wealth, store wealth, take care of foes using trap books and prison Ages. Most of these books possess anomalies and dangers to the general well-being of the public, hence why King Erli set fire to all illicit books in the central square of Ashtasa in 146 A.R. in an event known as The Burning of the Five Million Pages. There is also the technology of the Temple who hold the Book of Torus at the base of the Hive. Much of the structures on Tay, such as the city of Ashtasa with its stone and adobe, bone-molded architecture is a mix of D'ni and Moiety construction, blending the two aesthetics together. The town of Ash in the Wild East is notable for being built mostly by D'ni carpenters and builders, using local wood and stone. However, the town is presently in a discheveled state, the wood having rotted due to its porous nature and thus the town has a ghoulish appearance with town houses and inns leaning on one another while ash winds beat down on them. On Torus there is a temple erected to the worship of the deified Katran, built out of solid stone imported from Tay. So obviously the Moiety of elite classes such as Clan Wahrk, Rem and the Temple are able to afford better building technology or employing D'ni workers, however much of the work is done by schooled Moeity educated under the elite Guild structures of Tay, based on the D'ni model. Tay has over time imported much of the bureaucracy and technology of D'ni, however it often clashes with the tribal customs and culture more attuned to wild-living and violence, which in turn causes much chaos as their society hasn't had time to gradually adapt. Also of importance is the technology of the hidden faction... SPOILERS FOR PLOT BELOW (WRITTEN FOR TEAM MEMBERS!!!!) The hidden faction known as " The Golden Page" are a creation of those who were loyal to Gehn back on Riven and made up the leaders of the Five Guilds in place there. When they arrived on Tay, they became known as the "Black Star" and would go underground with their allegiance, using a burnt upside-down star or pentagram burnt and etched into walls as their calling cards. Over time this secret organization became more and more entrenched in Moiety culture, forming a makeshift religion out of their initial beliefs mixed with the dominant Moiety cultural beliefs. Hence rather than Katran, Gehn was seen as the Rivenese messiah having gifted the Rivenese with the Art. This is where Mount Gehn comes into play. The Black Star who renamed themselves the Golden Page when they began writing Ages and used the populations of these illicit Ages as a workforce to build D'ni-influenced technology that would serve their purpose. In Mount Gehn there is a large crater of boiling magma which the Golden Page are using as a power source. Inside the crater, over the magma, they have built a massive golden dome which uses the energy of the magma as a power source to power "Doomsday Marbles" which are power marbles injected with the plague used in the Pento war, taken from Pento itself using stolen books from the Tomb of the Great King. These books were acquired by Jade, one of our main characters, for his lover Queen Nadia (The main villain of the game) who Watson details in his journal by the account of her tutor Atef (An ex-D'ni Guild Master fugitive who had trained Nadia 15 years prior). The Golden Page have closely studied D'ni schematics and technology, basing their small culture off the D'ni template which they see as divinely inspired. This group has been able to grow and influence Moiety culture, influencing the ultimate belief that the Moiety's destiny is to follow the D'ni's path, having been chosen by the Maker through his hand - that being Gehn. END OF SPOILER In essence, Moiety civilization is like a weird thrown-together mix of tribal barbarism and D'ni tech and civic systems, but poorly implemented. The D'ni are seen as Gods by some and are the ideal race and civilization to aspire to. As for gliders, that's one idea I've actually been entertaining lately. I'm thinking of large inflatable hive like structures floating around the peaks of the mountains that house Squam and Taybird nests where the Temple (I'm guessing) keeps the Squam and Taybirds as a kind of hub or stop where they can fly from across the Age to the next floating hive. Inside Mount Gehn are large pockets where Squam nests reside. One idea I have in mind is that for the endgame, the player will need to steal Nadia's caged Squam in the palace down-south and fly on its back to one of the pockets of Mount Gehn, leading him/her to the Golden Page's base of operation. Art by aireona93
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Post by blackfoxx on Mar 6, 2016 14:17:46 GMT
I really like the golden page imagery but the black star - pentagram - satanist story line is a little over played. I don't think it will get a unique reaction in your audience. All of that stuff is everywhere in the paranormal community. I would think that lots of people with the driving imagination to play a game like this would be drawn to the paranormal talk circuit. All of those images are in David Bowie's last M-video Dark Star for example. youtu.be/kszLwBaC4SwI would suggest you relate your secret cult's image closer to the source material. The golden page is a good direction. === edit let me revise this. The golden pentagram specifically used in Riven would probably be fine, but don't point the intent in the direction of the witchcraft pentagram. Use Pentagon's more than the star shape. I see how you could make a case that this business with a pentagram can be linked with the source material but it doesn't feel right as a thing to cling to.
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Post by Yali on Mar 6, 2016 15:48:03 GMT
ok well I was thinking that the golden star of Gehn would be reversed because they would be see as enemies on Tay. The idea came from early Christians hiding their symbology during pagan times by using pagan symbology to signify their hidden beliefs mixed with how the church reversed the pagan pentacle once they had power. I wasn't trying to invoke any kind of satanist imagery, moreso how oppressed minorities often utilize symbols to signify their allegiance in a subtle manner. Maybe we could go more down that route with the early christian metaphor. Perhaps the Golden Page used a golden dagger as their symbol, or maybe a Moiety dagger with a pentagon or star in the handle rather than the shaft. Would that be better?
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Post by blackfoxx on Mar 9, 2016 15:08:10 GMT
Ok 2 things let's identify who the golden page is and what they're like. We've established that they are a minority held in low regard. If they are secretive who knows about them? Are they like the illuminati where everyone knows about them but they are seen as an invisible force? Or do they look like the secret organization from the new Daniel Craig - James Bond series, the where the only people who are aware of their involvement in the world is government types who occasionally run into problems when the golden page blocks actions. What are the bad things that they do. Are they willfully evil? This makes for an easy Nazi character but it is also that, an Easy character. Perhaps they are intelligent but extremely misguided. They make terrible conclusions from poorly thought out science experiments. Take for instance this documentary about the history of thermodynamics youtu.be/HqbcZz-p7IQ Academics used to think that the element of cold was influenced by a particle called Choleric if I recal. The more Choleric a thing had the colder it was. Misconceptions like this could change how people perceive the art of writing. Lets say they have set up experiments all over the region and every once in a while the player runs in to them. These experiments are measuring some geological/astronomical metric that is a little arcane. They think they are measuring something about the balance and stability of nature and jumping to the wrong conclusions. maybe they remember the events of the star fissure. Then they also look at how the stranger interacted with the star fissure. They assume that the black masses that the stranger encountered in the star fissure that lead from one age to the next are everywhere. remember the stranger fell back to new mexico relatively closer to the surface of earth. Maintaining the balance of their age might be a paramount objective. Wouldn't want to talk about it publicly to avoid panic. but the balance they think they are obtaining is scientifically distant from center. they are missing a piece of how reality is constructed. So they are actually pulling their world away from balance unintentionally. The player might find an age where the golden page has actually intentionally opened a star fissure to study the effects. Here is a neat episode of Stargate where they gate in to a place that is too close to a black hole stargate.wikia.com/wiki/A_Matter_of_Time [note we should keep black holes and starfissures as two distinct and seperate phenomena] By setting up a villain like this it's much more complex and much more rewarding. This cult is doing their best to defend their world but going about it the completely wrong way. Perhaps they are keeping this information from a group of scholars who could easily set them on the right path because they worry that those scholars would spill the beans or they think that the scholars don't have all the data because the golden page carries ancient accounts probably incomplete from the time of Riven's exodus. Atrus' thing has always been slow and steady extremely careful science. Just look at the way He progressed when digging towards the age of Terahnee. If their science is fast, loose and Jazzy I think you'll get a nice contrast. After developing the group you should come up with a symbol. Going with the example and your input about the dagger imagery. There was a dagger over the star fissure in Riven. Maybe they see the dagger as plugging a leak. So they might carry the dagger but instead of having the revolutionary image that the black moiety insurgent group had back in the day, it is an appropriate symbol. The two groups are completely unrelated. The insurgent group also makes for a good scapegoat. An interesting poetic twist. the dagger would be used in kill would be whistleblowers and witnesses. In this way it is also plugging a leak. So killings would show up often as cut throats, or dagger found in the mouth poking out the back of the neck, dagger found through the back of the neck poking out the mouth, or tongues cut out with the dagger as the tool. It becomes a ceremonial 'hole plug'. This is an exercise and an example. my point is don't try to come up with a symbol before fleshing out why that's their symbol. make the villain complicated. Here is a pixar 22 rules for storytelling. Its more for heroes than villains but I think in this case it is applicable. io9.gizmodo.com/5916970/the-22-rules-of-storytelling-according-to-pixar?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow========== point number two The Moiety insurgent group probably wouldn't continue on past the Exodus of Riven and the Reformation of Tay. They are instrumental in resisting Gehn and starting a new colony or living space. They would be highly venerated in the history books but stealth groups don't go on to run public governments. It's sort of like the separation between military and police. Military are trained to face enemy combatants. Shoot first ask questions later. They defend life on the razor's edge. The police on the other hand are trained to keep people alive. They are intended to de-escalate a situation and manage neighborhood activity. If you want to go down the path of functioning secret police, it might be an interesting path. I think that the moiety were Rivenese hunters who were stressed into forming a militia. After the need for the militia they would have returned to what they were. I had read an interesting Tom Clany book about the history of special forces. One of the only points I remember from the book is that the United States had rebuilt it's special forces and sniper programs from scratch every single war up until vietnam or desert storm. And disbanded after each of those previous wars. Maybe that indicates an optimistic outlook towards permanent peace but I think it also indicates politicians attitudes toward semi-efficient government spending. Why spend money on a program you don't need. I think after Tay become settled. The Moiety would form a public governing unit and relax the need for that secretive group despite the fact that they have a small population at the time and many in the secret ninja group would go on to become members of government. A third point I hadn't thought of till now. How diefied will the main character of Riven really be. I imagine the scale kind of goes {-The God-Sky Gods(Zeus)-Tall Tales-Roman Emperors-Abraham Lincoln}. These are historical figures and the people of Tay would know that. It's not like they would believe that they were magical creatures who could write ages because age writing exists on Tay. I would suggest that we look at them at the same level as George Washington as seen here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apotheosis_of_Washington this is the Roman emperor level. When you believe your special people ascend.
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Post by blackfoxx on Mar 9, 2016 15:34:03 GMT
Let me make note that I really don't want to take charge of the plot of the game. I just want to see it go in an interesting direction. I feel that my job is more to flesh things out than to actually generate main plot. Putting forward my opinion this strongly sort of makes me uncomfortable. I really don't want to railroad the project.
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Post by Yali on Mar 9, 2016 17:50:07 GMT
The Golden Page is essentially a religious cult that believes that Gehn is the Rivenese messiah, not Katran. Originally it was made up of followers of Gehn who had arrived on Tay during the mass exodus. Over time, the group which was initially secret became more interwoven in Moiety culture. Moiety culture came to overshadow the original beliefs of the group and confuse its meanings, so rather than a rebel force of loyal Gehn followers, it became a kind of alternate religious cult that saw Gehn, the D'ni and the Art as necessary gifts to the Moiety, and thus they disagree with the traditional Moiety held beliefs, seeing the D'ni as the civilization to aspire to, pride and all. Both viewpoints want the best for Tay, it just so happens that one of them was founded by the remaining members of Gehn's five Riven guilds. While the Golden Page initially wanted to destroy the Moiety, the current incarnation of the group after 200 years sees their mission as a kind of salvation for Tay, making Tay into its own Art wielding empire like ancient D'ni. Gehn is just seen as a positive force by them just as how the average Moiety citizen sees Katran or the Stranger as a positive deity.
I largely based my concept of historical deities on ancient Roman ones, most notably emperors like Hadrian and Trajan as well as Hadrian's lover Antinous who was deified when he died in the Nile. In ancient Rome it was common to deify great figures upon their deaths. Katran and the Stranger are similar in that vein in that they are both real historical figures in their lifetimes and deities (which could be seen as forces rather than anthropomoiphic gods) once they died. Moiety religion is very animist due to its tribal heritage and sees gods more akin to energy forces and metaphors than actual beings. I should do a graph of Moiety religion soon to explain all this.
As for the Golden Page's calling cards, personally I like the idea of using a rebel dagger, only with one key difference, that being the design within the circular handle. I see it much like how early Christian's used pagan imagery to symbolize their allegiance to Christ back when paganism was the dominant religion and the Christian persecutions were common.
One other idea I have is that their main calling card or weapon is molten gold. One key sign that the Golden Page had been somewhere is that their victims of assassination all have had their heads encased in molten gold, poured on the victim's head while liquid and extracted from the crater of Mount Gehn.
The player would investigate clues that lead him or her around the island, revealing crime scenes committed by the Golden Page where helpless enemies of their order would have been writing journals or notes about the order, only to be found dead, their heads encased in solid gold. The player might find from these crime scenes a trail of gold to a hidden journal or note, untouched by the Golden Page assassins, giving key information on how to solve certain puzzles. Just an idea.
In my mind the Golden Page would kind of fetishize Gehn's aesthetic - what with the overuse of symmetry, byzantine grandiosity and metal work, particularly gold.
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Post by blackfoxx on Mar 9, 2016 19:14:32 GMT
Ok. I can work with that. If you want gold murders, I think there are three options. A. people are kidnapped and brought the a ceremonial gold foundry and the gold is poured there. B. A team of gold bearers will go out in the night with a crucible to hunt for someone. Gold might not stay hot for very long So this option would have a radius from the foundry. C. The golden page has developed a device to melt gold on the go. Maybe they disguise it as one of the carts a pair or team of slave carry rich people in/ the vehicle used to carry covered holy items from place to place ceremonially. Can't remember the word.
So how much visibility does The golden page have? Are they the government? Are they the secret Government? Is it just a group of nobles? Academics? Who knows they exists and how much does each level of society know about them? Would they have influence over things like the outhouse books?
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Post by Yali on Mar 9, 2016 22:09:19 GMT
They're a somewhat secret group much like the revolutionary cults back in D'ni. The main plot deals with how the Queen (Nadia) has been seduced by their beliefs and wishes to build Tay into an empire like D'ni.
Personally I like option C the most. It could lead to some very interesting technological concepts that would make Tay seem more unique and alien.
PLOT SPOILERS BELOW!!!!!
Nadia had become obsessed with all that was arcane, secret, and mysterious... craving all the ancient knowledge of D'ni. She became involved with the Golden Page at an early age and promised them that she would make Tay great like Releeshahn. This led her to search for ancient D'ni texts on the Art and led her down a dark path of obsession and desire for more knowledge.
Her tutor Atef, who had been illictly writing a paradise Age to escape to with his best-friend and father of Jade (or Jadeen in D'ni) was found along with Jade's father to be in contempt of D'ni law, and both were sent to stand trial on Releeshahn by the Guild of Maintainers. Atef who had been closely studying the Queen and royal court culture of Tay, escaped into the wilds to the town of Ash where he took on a pseudonym and began running an inn that served as a refuge for criminals and fugitives from across the Ages. Atef had been asked during his tenure as tutor to Nadia to acquire ancient D'ni texts, most notably texts from the dark ages of D'ni. He refused the young queen's demand shortly before the Maintainers put a price on his head.
Later as Nadia grew, she began to seek out Atef with the goal of offering him pardon and refuge on Tay if he could acquire said texts. This led her to confront him in the inn under disguise. While Atef still refused, he revealed crucial information about his crime to create a paradise Age that the D'ni saw as blasphemous, as he nor his friend did not belong to the Guild of Writers. She tracked down Atef's crime partner, only to find his hut abandoned in the Western Jungles.
Three years passed and Nadia grew to hate court life on Tay, preferring to to mingle with the citizens in the inns and clubs of Ashtasa under disguise. This is where she met Jade, who she knew was full blooded D'ni, something she came to almost fetishize. The two quickly became passionately involved and it wasn't long before Nadia began to think of a means to utilize this nascent relationship to her benefit.
The more she learned of D'ni through the stories of Jade, which were often skewed due to his life in exile on Tay, she began to lust for the power of the Art. D'ni became a kind of unattainable perfection, and from this point onward she became more and more involved in the Golden Page's secret meetings.
She decided to test Jade. She asked that he retrieve her books from the Pento war, particularly those detailing the biological structures of the Plague that ravaged D'ni some 8000 years prior. Armed with a book to the Cavern that was kept in the Royal Palace, Jade was manipulated by his love and need for Nadia to go and retrieve these books. All he needed was an ancient key to the Tomb of the Great King that Atrus had stored in secret after the events of Terahnee. While on Releeshahn, he scoured the Age for Atrus' key only to come up empty handed. This is when he returned in despair to his father's old refuge in the Jungles, only to find a journal of his father's hidden in an old box. It told of his father and Atef's plan to create a paradise Age to escape to and live out life with their two families. In it he mentioned that Atef had left to Ash for refuge, the date of writing being a few days before his father had been found by Jade decapitated in the jungles by some unseen force. Jade left for Ash upon hearing this and encountered Atef, who he inquired to about his father and their plans. Atef, not knowing that Jade was involved with the Queen, revealed that he had tutored the Queen and had decided to hide the key to the Tomb of the Great King in a place that Nadia nor any member of Atrus' family would ever visit, keeping the plague at a far distance from those in power. He did so behind Atrus' back one night, all on his own, to avoid inquiry and possible theft on the part of Nadia and her kin. He chose to hide the key in a sealed box on Myst island.
Jade now knowing this, linked to D'ni and used the Myst linking book left in the prison on K'veer and retrieved the key. From there he linked to Ae'Gura and reopened the Tomb of the Great King, finding the Book of Pento. He retrieved the book to Nadia, who brought the Book to her Golden Page brethren who began extracting the elements of the plague from the Age to be concocted into a "Doomsday Marble" which they would forge in the heart of Mount Gehn and use against an Age they had written if its population did not agree to work with them.
Ultimately, consumed by her lust for knowledge and control, Nadia ordered the main general of Clan Wahrk to begin sending militia to this populated Age to control its peoples and help build a military presence as part of a Moiety Empire. The General, like most Moiety, did not hold the same skewed beliefs of Nadia and the Golden Page and refused. In a fit of rage she threatened to have him and his family killed if he did not carry out her orders. He refused again and she had him executed and replaced with a Golden Page member who began sending out soldiery to said Ages.
In the end, the fate of three Ages lies in the crater of Mount Gehn. Two Age books are placed above the crater within the slit of the Golden Power dome - one leading to an unknown Age that the Moiety have written, the other leading to Releeshahn. In the endgame scenario, I imagine the player will confront Nadia here while donning a Maintainer suit to protect oneself from the lava below. Nadia, who will have arrived unprotected, will threaten the player with "choosing" one book to use. By choosing one book, the power dome immediately unleashes the doomsday marble (which is held in the palm of a large bronze cast arm at the edge of the platform) along with you into the Age, killing you and the population in the process. The goal should be to use a trap book on Nadia.
One idea I have in mind is to effectively trap her in the heart of the volcano by the golden power dome with no way of living without using the prison book. The idea would be to use the prison book on yourself over by the edge of the platform at the center of the volcano, then she gives it to her guard who uses it releasing you on the other side of the platform behind a gate. From there, you close the gate using a lever and lowering an unused vat of molten gold onto the platform, severing the bridge. Nadia, now stuck in the heart of the volcano with no way to escape would be forced to use the book to save her life, even if it would mean living within a prison until her death. The player would also have to turn off the power to the dome, meaning she couldn't poison an Age out of revenge. One possibility is that if the player forgets to remove the doomsday marble from the large bronze cast hand before severing the walkway, Nadia will throw the marble into the pit of the volcano, causing it to erupt and poisoning all of Tay in the process. Since you would have a Maintainer suit on, you would be able to escape the Volcano only to see the Age quickly die as the skies turn a sickly yellow and every plant crumbles to grey ash. The game would end with you knowing that you lived to see yourself destroy an entire world and people with you left alive to face the grief and knowledge of what you allowed to transpire.
If Nadia chooses her own imprisonment, the guard will be released who will then call out to you. You will press a button calling a squam that will bring him to safety. Due to having saved the guard's life, you will be escorted away from the Golden Page members to safety where you will bring the prison book to the Maintainers and they will take care of the rest.
This is in essence what I have so far in relation to the main plot.
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